{"id":1192,"date":"2019-08-01T20:47:09","date_gmt":"2019-08-02T00:47:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mci.archpitt.org\/blog\/blog\/?p=1192"},"modified":"2019-08-01T21:33:29","modified_gmt":"2019-08-02T01:33:29","slug":"all-the-faithful-come-before-you","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mci.archpitt.org\/blog\/all-the-faithful-come-before-you\/","title":{"rendered":"All the faithful come before you"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This is the first hymn to the Mother of God that we will look at, and it illustrates a variety of issues we will encounter with these hymns.<br \/>\n<!--more--><\/p>\n<h3>Current version<\/h3>\n<p>Here is the version in the <em>Marian Hymnal <\/em>(1984):<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/mci.archpitt.org\/blog\/images\/music\/MCIHymnal\/All_the_faithful_come_before_you.GIF\" alt=\"Boh predvicnyj\" width=\"686\" height=\"556\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">This English setting of <a href=\"https:\/\/mci.archpitt.org\/blog\/songs\/Slavonic\/Christijane_proslavlajme.html\">Christijane, proslavl&#8217;ajme<\/a> is by Father William Levkulic. Here is the Slavonic, also from the <em>Marian Hymnal<\/em>:<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/mci.archpitt.org\/blog\/songs\/images\/Christijane_proslavlajme.png\" width=\"654\" height=\"581\" \/><\/p>\n<h3 align=\"left\">Accents in the text<\/h3>\n<p align=\"left\">In Slavonic, the hymn is in a very strong duple meter; which could be written as 4\/4 or even 2\/4 time. Every accented syllable falls on a beat.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">In English, the first line of the refrain CAN be sung as written, matching the flow of the original:<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"example\" src=\"https:\/\/mci.archpitt.org\/blog\/songs\/discuss\/All_the_faithful_come_before_you_1.png\" width=\"339\" height=\"113\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">But the final (added) line of the refrain ends up with very bad accents:<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"example\" src=\"https:\/\/mci.archpitt.org\/blog\/songs\/discuss\/All_the_faithful_come_before_you_2_bad.png\" width=\"366\" height=\"115\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">In practice, it is usually sung like plain chant, with no regular beat:<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"example\" src=\"https:\/\/mci.archpitt.org\/blog\/songs\/discuss\/All_the_faithful_come_before_you_2_good.png\" width=\"392\" height=\"85\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">before returning to the regular beat at &#8220;Keep us free from fear.&#8221; This in turn leads some to sing the FIRST line of the refrain differently:<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"example\" src=\"https:\/\/mci.archpitt.org\/blog\/songs\/discuss\/All_the_faithful_come_before_you_1_adj.png\" width=\"592\" height=\"87\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">After input from a number of cantors, I&#8217;ve decided NOT to try and maintain the exact Slavonic rhythm on this line:<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"example\" src=\"https:\/\/mci.archpitt.org\/blog\/songs\/discuss\/All_the_faithful_come_before_you_1_fixed.png\" width=\"347\" height=\"89\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">but instead simply accept that the English and Slavonic melodies will be sung a little differently.\u00a0 (Since the two languages are not being put under the same notes, this is NOT a problem.) Here is the result:<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/mci.archpitt.org\/blog\/songs\/images\/All_the_faithful_come_before_you.png\" alt=\"Boh predvicnyj\" width=\"644\" height=\"522\" \/><\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Notice that there are two kinds of measures: lines 1, 2, and 4 are in an even 4\/4 rhythm, while lines 3 and 5 are written in a &#8220;chant style&#8221; &#8211; measures of uneven\u00a0 length, accented according to the words, and with a brief pause at the end of each measure.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">I also toyed with the idea of putting in an explicit time signature (4\/4, each measure consists of four quarter notes, with a strong accent on the first and a smaller accent on the third), but I decided that it would be more confusing than helpful.\u00a0 One thing this does convince me to do, however, is to each both the English and Slavonic, so that cantors sing both correctly.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">What do you think?<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">Please leave a comment!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is the first hymn to the Mother of God that we will look at, and it illustrates a variety of issues we will encounter with these hymns.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"episode_type":"","audio_file":"","cover_image":"","cover_image_id":"","duration":"","filesize":"","date_recorded":"","explicit":"","block":"","itunes_episode_number":"","itunes_title":"","itunes_season_number":"","itunes_episode_type":"","filesize_raw":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[25],"tags":[20],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mci.archpitt.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1192"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mci.archpitt.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mci.archpitt.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mci.archpitt.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mci.archpitt.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1192"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/mci.archpitt.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1192\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1198,"href":"https:\/\/mci.archpitt.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1192\/revisions\/1198"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mci.archpitt.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1192"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mci.archpitt.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1192"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mci.archpitt.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1192"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}